My name is Jeffrey Herman and I am an attorney who represents victims of sexual abuse. I am representing victims who claim they were abused by Yidi Kolko. I am currently investigating these claims. If anyone has information about this case, please contact me via email at jherman@hermanlaw.com or via telephone at (305) 931-2200.
Posted by Attorney Jeff Herman to Un-Orthodox Jews at 2/17/2006 11:28:55 AM
By Daniel Lyons
Child sexual abuse litigation will probably not generate anything like the settlements for, say, asbestos claims ($54 billion to date). But, like asbestos litigation, it has the potential to snowball, with profits from early settlements financing the recruiting of an ever-widening ring of plaintiffs. Among the cases in this gold rush:
* In Florida, a lawyer who has filed numerous suits against Miami's Catholic archdiocese filed a class suit on behalf of up to 100,000 Native Americans who allegedly were mentally, physically and sexually abused in government-run boarding schools. Attorney Jeffrey M. Herman says the suit, filed in April in the U.S. Court of Federal Claims in Washington, D.C., asserts that damages could run as high as $25 billion. Canada faces a similar claim from up to 18,000 Native Americans and estimates it will spend $1.2 billion (U.S.) to settle it.
More than 500 cases are pending against the Boston archdiocese, with at least a thousand more claims against Catholic dioceses nationwide. Some lawyers estimate as many as 20,000 people were molested by Catholic clergy in the U.S. in recent decades. And for every Catholic victim, Schiltz estimates even more may have been harmed by clergy of other faiths. These cases, moreover, MacLeish says, will prompt more victims of nonclergy abuse to come forward as people feel less stigmatized.
The lawyers help make that possible. In Los Angeles Raymond Boucher has 220 clients and is trying to form a class action. His Web site boasts a list of priests who have been convicted or accused of sexual abuse and a "secure victim form" that lets visitors click their way to a confidential complaint. Boucher's office also provides space to a "victim advocate," who has been contacting hundreds of possible victims, though Boucher insists this is for outreach, not for recruiting.
In Minnesota, attorney Jeffrey Anderson, with more than 700 past clergy cases and 250 pending, aims to use the Racketeer Influenced & Corrupt Organization Act (RICO), arguing bishops conspired in a coverup. He also is trying to sue the Vatican, complete with a complaint he had translated into Latin.
Some of these cases are likely to bankrupt some Catholic dioceses, but this legal assault seeks even deeper pockets: big insurers. Put aside the pious talk about protecting kids, and the racket boils down to this: Plaintiff lawyers are going after old insurance policies written decades ago under entirely different circumstances. Boucher says he has found two insurers with big exposure in Los Angeles. Pacific Indemnity, a subsidiary of Chubb Group, wrote policies from the early 1950s to 1967 and could be on the hook for several hundred million, Boucher says. Chubb says any effect won't be material. Allianz Insurance Co., a U.S. subsidiary of Munich-based Allianz Group, wrote policies from 1979 to 1986 and could be responsible for more than $20 billion, Boucher insists. Allianz calls this estimate "grossly off-base."
The Non-Announcement-Announcement
The deadline has passed, Yudi Kolko has not been put on leave.
Out of deference and respect to my friends who asked me to wait twenty four hours, because "they were certain that Margulies was in agreement to have a full hearing in front of prominent attorneys and rabbonim," I waited until 11 a.m. on Friday.
I was hell-bent certain that this was a trick; I tried to explain to my friends that Margulies was stalling for time, to regroup, and figure out a way to strike back and impede our efforts to rid Yudi Kolko from the presence of children. Ultimately, Margulies is more concerned about himself and his liability of harboring a vicious child molester willingly and knowingly for more than thirty years. He could care less about the safety of your children; for this he will lose his so called yeshiva. Nevertheless they pleaded with me to wait until Friday, I did.
I was right again, it was a trick!
I pulled the trigger; I did everything I said I would, and much, much more.
Jeffrey Herman Esq. is representing the victims. To the hundreds of victims of Margulies/Tora Temima/Kolko....you are invited to contact Mr. Herman and participate in the litigation. Mr. Herman's credentials speaks for themselves...he is an expert in this field, and has successfully battled and collected huge awards for his clients. He is afraid of nobody; no one is out of the reach of the law no matter what the color or style of clothing they cloak themselves in. He is a trailblazer in clergy sexual abuse matters.
As for myself, I choose to make no additional statements at this time, "yamim yagidu"!
A Concerned Parent Comments
UOJ,
I wanted to share a few of my feelings with you. I know you are very
determined, but the road is long, lonely and fraught with bumps, so it
is nice to have some support.
For a long time, I have been worried about the state of Orthodox
Judaism as it is currently constituted. I grew up with strong emunah,
and knowing that the Ari might have been dreaming, or that Rabbi
Shimon Bar Yochi didn't write the Zohar or that Besht stories are made
up, does not interfere with my willingness to live as a frum Jew.
After all, I still have a lot of meaning in my life and I would like
nothing more than to raise my children in the same system.
It isn't the history of the frum velt that makes such a path
difficult, but the current direction of its adherents. Whenever there
is a public story about a frum guy stealing or going to jail, you
always hear people say that you shouldn't judge a religion by its
adherents, but by what it preaches. This is possible when there is a
minute minority who disregards its ethos and shame the religion.
However, once there is a disturbing proportion who do so, and even
scarier proportion that stand idly by while it happens, it is no
longer possible not to judge.
Frankly, I am scared. I am scared for my children that I won't have
the heart to instill in them the love of yidishkeit that I grew up
with. How can I instill a love when I must warn them and watch them at
every turn to make sure they are safe? How can I sing Hamalach Hagoel
to them as they fall asleep knowing the state of the frum society they
will grow up in? How can I send them to the best yeshivos that they
can get into or my money can buy when I know that they might not be
safe from deviant predators?
None of this however, is the worst part. The worst part is that I
don't have the guts to do anything. How can I stand up and make a
scene when I see what happens to those that do? You have done so and
look what it has brought you. People curse you out and call you every
name imaginable. They threaten your wife and children. They try to out
you and publicly report your name and phone number. They advocate
violence against you. These sick misguided souls compare you to the
Nazis yemach shemam.
Is this the frumkeit that I will bring my children into? Is this the
beautiful religion that my grandparents lived defiantly through
concentration camps for? Is this what we have cherished and protected
all these years? No. Absolutely not. This is a sick twisted upside
down world where the victims are considered the bad ones while the
agressors are protected.
I don't hate the frum velt. I don't hate all the gedolim. I don't
believe there was ever an intentional decision that determined this
direction of the frum world. I understand that we are in a new
generation and face challenges for which there is no historical
guidance. I understand that very well and as a result, I do not cast
blame. However, I hate those who refuse to see what is going on around
them. Intelligent people, who bury their heads so deep in the sand
that they can revile someone for shaming their religion by exposing
the dirty secrets yet have nothing but compassion for those who
perpetrate them.
We are in a crisis and the small glimmer of hope on the horizon is
that there will be more courageous people, like UOJ, who will stand up
and say, enough. Until then, my head will also be buried deep in the
sand. Buried to hide my embarrassment and shame that I am frum and
remain quiet in the face of this crisis.
UOJ-Chazak Ubaruck. I daven for you three times a day.
Sincerely,
Frum and Worried
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Without using names or discussing specifics, can you tell us if (1) anyone has contacted you and (2) whether you think the claims are credible?
Mr. Herman,
Will you also listen to stories OTHER THAN R'Kolko at this time?
There are a couple of website critical of UOJ. One has claimed UOJ was mechalel Shabbos.
However check out this evidence:
Anonymous said...
we be
you guys sound like a bunch of kids.
this site is a parody of what a site trying to stop UOJ would look like.
Cant beleive you fell for the 837-5609 trick!
i heard the food in nosh express is horrible.
couldnt you hold it in kosher delight?
6:42 AM <--------- NOTE THE TIME!
Anonymous said...
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did you notice that i just posted a comment at 4:42 pm and it shows up as (drum roll please)
6:42 AM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am A MECHALEL FRIDAY.
APOLOGIZE TO UOJ NOW!!!!!!!
YOU WILL HAVE NO CHELEK IN OILAM HABAH UNTIL YOU PUBLICLY IN PUBLIC APOLOGIZE.
6:44 AM <------- NOTE THE TIME
These were posted at 4:42 and 4:44 PM!!!!!!
SO WHO IS A LIAR.
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What about your plans to invoke the media? You should not let this die down. If you do, Margulies and Kolko win.
The starting point in analyzing this situation from a Torahdike point of view is the well known psak that a child molester has a Din Rodef.
“Viailoo Shematzilin Oisum Binafshum Harodef Achar Hazochor.”
The Din Rodef is not a Din in Bais Din but a Mitzvah Al Kol Yisroel to be Matzil the Nirduf Bnafshi Shel Rodef. Obviously this Psak only applies to someone who is actively molesting children. The Kolko defenders argue that notwithstanding his past conduct, to their knowledge he hasn’t molested anybody recently. However, the question as to whether he constitutes a danger to children is clearly not resolved. Kolko has clearly lost his Chezkas Kashrus by virtue of his past conduct and based on medical knowledge of recidivist behavior among child molesters he poses a present danger to children.
Some talk about Teshuvah. However, when it comes to Bain Odom Lechaveiro there is no Teshuvah, Ad Sheyaratzeh Es Chaveiro. There can be no talk of Mechilah until Kolko compensates all of his victims in full. He’s never even tried. And for good reason. “Hachovel Bechaveiru Chayiv Bechameesha Devarim: Nezek, Tzaar, Reepoi, Sheves and Boishes.”
Do the math.
As Esther Hamalka said “Ein Hatzar Shoiveh Binaizek Hamelech.”
Kolko's defenders cry Loshon Horoh. The issur of Loshon Horoh has no application here whatsoever since Loshon Horoh is clearly Muttar Litoyeles. There is no greater Toeles then saving Jewish children from abuse. Not only is it Muttar, it is an absolute Chiyuv Al Kol Yisroel, Lhatzil Es Hanirdofim – our defenseless Jewish children.
In fact, anybody who does not do everything in their power in this situation to save our children is over a Lav Doraysa of Lo Saamod Al Dam Reyacha. This includes spending your own resources to save another Jew.
They who sit idly by are also being Mivatel the Mitzvah of Ubearta Hara Mikirbecha which is the absolute Chiyuv Al Kol Yisroel to remove evil from our midst.
There can be no greater evil than a man who has been Mazik the Goofim and, Rachmana Litzlan, the Neshomos of hundreds of Yiddeshe Kinderlech; Hashem Yishmireinu.
As the Posuk says by Shimon and Levi’s killing of Shechem, “Ki Nevulu Usisa Biyosroel Vichain Lo Yaoseh.” Those who would keep Kolko in a position to be further Mazik children are being Machzik Yidei Ovrei Aveirah and are Oiver the Lav of Lifnei Eevair Lo Seetain Michshol.
They are also Oiver the Lav of Lo Sosim Domim Bivaisecha, which applies to any Davar Shel Sakana. There is no greater Sakana then keeping a child molester around children.
The claim that this matter has not been well known is utter nonesense. The accusations against this man are the biggest Kolo Diloi Posik for over thirty years and there are Kamah Eidim to his Nevulos.
The people who are trying to save our children from this evil should be lauded like the true Kanoim in the Torah who took action while everybody else cried. They cried because Nisalmoh Meiham Halachoh.
When it comes to the problem of molestation it appears that we suffer from a collective Nisalmoh Mee Menu Halacha.
How can Torah be learned Kitzurosoh in a Mossad that harbors such a Menuval.
The true Roshei Yeshivah, Rabbeim and Bnai Torah in Yeshivah Torah Temimah should stand up as one and say Tzai Tumai, go out from among us unclean one, so we can learn Torah Al Taharas Hakodesh and not be compared Chas Visholom to one who is Toivel Visheretz Biyodo.
Above Anon,
I published your asinine post to show everyone what reshaim you are. To hell with you and your threats. I'll take down the entire community and send my kids to public schools.
Big deal, UOJ. Your kids would get into Stuyvesant, cause they speak English as a FIRST LANGUAGE. Not exactly the end of the world, now, is it?
Acutally, that gives me an idea...stay tuned!
Shame on these gangsters for naming names, threatening your family, and ignoring the issues. Got zol im bentshn mit dray mentshn: eyner zol im haltn, der tsveyter zol im shpaltn un der driter zol im ba’haltn.
Dear uoj
I have been watching with interest your crusade. I personally know a number of children molested by Monderer may his soul rot in hell. Perhaps if there was a brave (perhaps foolhardy!)soul like you willing to take him on many many children would have been saved endless agony. I personally was molested by an older high scool boy and the damage and shame it caused have haunted me till this day. Often the damage goes to the next generation as the depression, shame, and other emotional dysfunctionality affect the entire home, the marriage etc.
YOUR BLOG SERVES A GREAT PURPOSE AND IT WOULD BE A SHAME IF IT CLOSED. I believe you have to look beyond Kolko, and use this blog as a tool to protect all our children. you would be a hero and a tzadik if you tackeled this goal that few others have the gumption to do.
I respectfully disagree with the attacks on Rabbonim that occur here for two reasons. The vast majority of our rabbonim are erlich, edel, and well meaning, and live humble & often lives of poverty . Their shortcoming is that many suffer from excessive anovo and some naivete (midos prized among our people). This does not take away from their piousness. Not everyone is cut out to be a warrior. You can be the warrior for your cause, without attacking them. These sidebars only denigrate the importance of your mission and reduce your effectiveness. People will cut and paste prior statements you made to dilute or ridicule your integrity.
Please find away to keep this blog effective so that what happened to me wont happen to others, and so when you come to the pearly gates you can say "I was a Shomer Yisrael"
Above Anon,
I agree with just about everything you said including your criticism.
For years I have written and published and had spoken, and then my writings were rejected by the "mainstream" Jews and media.
I did not change, it was Judaism that changed for the worse.
And when I could not affect change in a corrupt system, run by many dishonest and corrupt individuals, I needed a way to get the attention of my fellow Jews.
Thanks to our wonderful country, I can say just about anything I want in any way I want to, except of course promoting violence.
I am promoting violent CHANGE, not violence!!!
We need to fix a very broken system, and if this is the only way left for me to do it, so be it, I'll do it.
My message is loud and clear, I will expose the gangsters one at a time, forever, until I die!!!
UOJ is causing change in a big way, he is getting attention to his cause by his unique style and knowledge.
Good Luck, it's about time.
UOJ;
Whatever it is you're drinking, bottle it and give it to Zwiebel, et al. at the Agudah and our "friends" over at Torah Umesorah.
Keep truckin'
We certainly want to follow Halacha during this difficult time. However once again the ruthless tactics of Margolis and Kolko are rearing their ugly heads. Hazmonos will be sent out shortly by a Rav that has years of asscociation with Margolis and Kolko. As per Halacha one does not have to go to the Bais Din where the Hazmana was sent from. Instead please direct them to the independent Bais Din that will now be set up (where and when will soon follow) under the Gedolim Hagoen Harav Rav Reuven Feinstein Shelita,and Hagoen Harav Rav Shmuel Kaminetzky, Shelita who are both on the Board of Torah Umesorah, and do not want to see justice perverted again.
It's long over due, where were they for thirty years?
To Frum & Worried -- very powerful and scary message! Scary, in that many frum are in your extremely uncomfortable position, and powerful because you have the courage to admit it and think beyond your fear. UOJ -- thanks for putting it in.
I've been lurking on this site since the beginning and this is my first time to post.
UOJ is a brave and smart man. Finally someone to step up and actually do something about the horrors that go on in Orthdoxy.
The lies, the denial and the constant sweeping under the rug. Let's focus on wigs and where the hair comes from and if its kosher instead of the real issues. Always the attention on the letter of the law (which is usually misinterpreted) instead of the spirit of the law.
The way I see it is the "good" rabbi's who are usually working for Hashem and making humble earnings can't speak up about the injustices becuase the guys with money who are crooked pay their bills and run the beis din.
So along comes UOJ, someone with smicha and big bucks and he turns out to be one of the good guys who can and is doing something.
Our Superman! Super Jew to the Rescue!!! I wonder who Lois Lane is? Poor girl, she probably never gets to see him, cause he's leaping from tall Yeshiva's at a single bounce!
All kidding aside. UOJ Please don't stop your crusade and please stay anonymous, this is the only way you can make all these changes. Of course they want to find out who you are so that they can slander you and rid of you so that they don't ever have to come clean with all the abuse!
Got zol im bentshn mit dray mentshn: eyner zol im haltn, der tsveyter zol im shpaltn un der driter zol im ba’haltn.
Unfortunately these Rabbonim were unaware of the case when it was presented 20 years ago. It should also be noted that there was no Bais Din Psak twenty years ago, nor did Pinchas Scheinberg exonerate anyone.
What is frightening about all this is how typecast these self-styled whistleblowers can be. UOJ writes:
"Thanks to our wonderful country, I can say just about anything I want in any way I want to, except of course promoting violence.
I am promoting violent CHANGE, not violence!!!
We need to fix a very broken system, and if this is the only way left for me to do it, so be it, I'll do it. My message is loud and clear, I will expose the gangsters one at a time, forever, until I die!!!"
These are the words of a man completely fixated on his own self importance, on his role as a big time swashbuckling lawyer contacting superhero - the ego issues here are manifest. I'm UOJ and I'm the savior of all of orthodoxy from the evil pharisees. UOJ is erecting a cult of personality around himself - and his biggest follower is himself.
The upshot of all this is that as this guy - whoever he he is - assumes the role he's constructed - he now thinks he can point fingers and name names of people without any care for verification or truth, since of course its true - he's saying it. Furthermore, his delusions increase as he enlists the aid of "commenters" - conveniently anonymous - who assure us that they are telling the truth without ANY verifying information and spout generalizations about UOJ's targets and how great UOJ is - when in fact we have no reason to beleive that these supporting witnesses are anyone else than UOJ himself.
Is there is molestation going on in the jewish community? I'm sure. Is UOJ doing anything whatsoever to stop it? Probably not. He's just spinning his wheels in the mud and splattering innocent bystanders in his attmept to show everyone how fast he can drive.
In short, we have another example of a possibly proper crusade being conducted by an obsessesive mcarthyite crusader - a ken-starr type who does more to undermine his cause by depriving it of credibility than he does to help it.
Keep up the good work.
Anonymous Above,
Just to demonstrate to you that I'm not afraid of your criticism or your accusations, I published your comment.
For all I know you could be Lipa Margulies or Yudi Kolko, Mr. Anonymous!!!!
How magnanimous and big of you to not censor people with legitimate criticicm. How open minded. Honestly, you sound like a tinpot dictator - ease up on the shrill, use a little deliberation and think twice before you say just anything, and maybe people will take you seriously. I mean people outside of brooklyn.
Just curious, is there any reason you have a lawyer in florida who's not a member of the NYS bar looking into you allegations? Couldn't get a NY lawyer, and had to settle for a frum 1800-dialalawyer from out of state? Hmmm...weak points yell loud, or so they say.
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Anonymous! You are so full of yourself. The lawyer UOJ got was after doing intense research and finding out who represented the victims who were molested by the Catholic priests.
I think you're jealous that someone is doing something that you yourself would never do. I've had quite enough of Pontificating and put downs of someone who is finally speaking out about injustices. You want proof? I'll tell you what the perverted teacher did to me. But can you handle the truth??????
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2003/0609/066_2.html
yup, just another concerned lawyer looking out for the best for his fellow man.
Lawyers do what they do best, and yes they get paid well for their work.
Uh huh. I only wonder what you'd say if mr. herman was a shul rabbi a school principal or the head of a jewish organization. You'd scream bloody murder about how he's a parasite living off human misery. What's pretty clear is that the same rules that you apply to everyone else dont apply to you or the people who support you.
handle the truth? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not so hard. Go ahead angry@anonymous, tell me about your experience and give us your name to boot, or at least some ID information so we know you're a real person with something to lose when you make an allegation. Otherwise, you're just another anonymous guy casting aspersion from safely behind a mask.
What's interesting is how closely your writing patterns and posting time coordinates with those of UOJ's. Coincidence? Not known until you give us reason to beleive you are a different person.
Rabbis are suppose to teach, principals of schools are suppose to protect their students, heads of Jewish organizations are suppose to organize.....and lawyers are suppose to sue the bad guys.
if good lawyers are supposed to correct injustice and "sue the bad guys" (actually, that makes trial lawyers the highest form of lawyer - I thought that the best lawyers were judges, DAs and AGs - but there we have the cartoonish version of reality characteristic of the delusional way of thinking that posesses UOJ and his type). what makes a bad lawyer? Someone who sues people who arent necessarily bad on behalf of people with an agenda or looking to make a quick buck. This forbes article pretty much makes that point - while there are many cases with merit in the abuse lawsuits, there are also plenty of frivolous cases. The lawyers who'll bring any case against any defendant no matter how poorly justified is what I'd call the equivalent of a principal who harbors a child molester. When you use one against the other, you're complicit as each of them.
And if you assume that the existence of a suit is equal to the findings of guilt or liability, you prove that you have a warped and ill-informed view of the justice system.
"I think you're jealous that someone is doing something that you yourself would never do."
I actually believe in responsible reporting - if there's a real story, report it and make changes. But UOJ has repeatedly shown a predilection for salacious gossip, automatically assuming the worst about his fellow man, and shoddy fact finding and reporting. That makes him irresponsible, and rather disgusting. I'm not jealous of him, I wish he'd go away and be replaced by a more responsible reporter who understands the nuances of the wide world outside of flatbush.
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Yes, not all principals harbor child molesters and not all lawyers are bringing frivilous lawsuits against innocent people.
Good point.
UOJ, if you were some upstanding guy who wanted to correct some wrongs, then, maybe, you would have some credence.
But you have created a reputation for yourself as someone who criticizes virtually anything and everything.
You have made fun of every rabbi, rov, gadol, - everyone!
You have no credibility with most people.
Get an upstanding person to run a campaign and then the masses might listen.
Coming from you, it isn't worth a dime.
Child sexual abuse litigation will probably not generate anything like the settlements for, say, asbestos claims ($54 billion to date). But, like asbestos litigation, it has the potential to snowball, with profits from early settlements financing the recruiting of an ever-widening ring of plaintiffs. Among the cases in this gold rush:
* In Florida, a lawyer who has filed numerous suits against Miami's Catholic archdiocese filed a class suit on behalf of up to 100,000 Native Americans who allegedly were mentally, physically and sexually abused in government-run boarding schools. Attorney Jeffrey M. Herman says the suit, filed in April in the U.S. Court of Federal Claims in Washington, D.C., asserts that damages could run as high as $25 billion. Canada faces a similar claim from up to 18,000 Native Americans and estimates it will spend $1.2 billion (U.S.) to settle it.
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See the Deep Nose "A" team, there are more people on that list than the B & C team combined.
Yes, there are way too many people that are posing as rabbis, and should be running grocery stores or pizza parlors.
I would not trust their groceries or pizza unless it was hermetically sealed.
I for one find it refreshing to see comments from critics who speak the Queen’s English.
It is unfortunate that these eloquent commentators choose to engage in the same tactic as the earlier boorish posters. Namely, attack the messenger.
True, UOJ can be abrasive and offensive. However, the question remains; is Yidi Kolko a child molester and has Lipa Margulies been knowingly sheltering this child molester in his yeshiva for over 30 years?
UOJ and others maintain that the answer is yes. You choose to attack UOJ and his methods while ignoring the issue at hand.
What do you dissenters propose be done; ignore the problem for another 30 years?
The issue is not UOJ, it is Kolko.
Margulies has been told by numerous people that Kolko has molested children.
Why is he still in the classroom with our children? Shouldn’t he be suspended pending a conclusive determination of this matter?
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What are you doing to help? Who are you? How do I know that you are not another perpetrator hiding behind your pontificating? What have you done to help???? What are you willing to do to help?
You have no idea how painful it is for a victim to come clean about what happened so that some better than, know it all can justify it all.
Just like my parents did. I'm making it up right? It was an accident, his hand slipped, right?
I don't have to prove anything to you. You're just a cowardly blogger who goes to temple and points out everyone who is breaking halacha, while you sit in judgement and don't do anything to help!!!
You are a dime a dozen. Black hat, unhappy marriage, putting on the front, when your terrified inside to do anything out of the box...like "tell the truth"
The attorney knows who I am...that's all that matters. I pray for your children that they never get molested and come up to you and say, daddy that man at school tocuhed me in my private parts and made me do things that felt bad. so that you can say, "Oh don't be ridiculous, he's a nice man, he didn't do anything wrong...you made it up!!!
OUJ as a supporter of you and your cause i think its time to close the blog. Maybe you can move this over to a website that provides updates on the proceedings. The blogging served its purpose. This cuurent back and forth is unproductive at best not even entertaining at worst.
To all the blog readers here: there is a tremendous advantage to bringing a civil suit over a criminal charge. The burden of evidence is much lighter (the OJ case is a good example) and it will be a lot easier to prove abuse if indeed there was.
To the "Anon - above" asswipe Mo fo.
Why don't you take a broomstick, put some vaseline on it and shove it up your pompous behind.
If you have a problem with OUJ then don't show up here.
Take your ramblings to another board where everyone can appreciate you flowery prose and psychobabble.
How many times did you re-read your meaningless drivel? Did you get a kick out of yourself when you wrote about OUJ "kicking up mud with his spinning wheeels"?
Get lost you Tinaf and take your bile with you. Were trying to save childrend from predators here..
You friggen menuval, "mookeh shechin"...................
sadjew;
Good to read of your support for UOJ and this cause.
I beg to differ with you on one important point:
All of the "Rabbis", Leaders, and Askonim that have continuously acted as ostriches on this issue will miraculously raise their heads and primp for the photo-ops and concomitant publicity when the first sex-predator goes down. Press releases by Torah Umesorah, the Agudah, et al; (Hey Zwiebel, you're a prominent lawyer, you can change your suit and tie every so often--I'll speak to Lipshits; it's Muttar, your membership in Shevat Levi will not be revoked. Perhaps we will get lucky and even the ubiquitous and pompous Malcolm Hoe-line [sic] will make a cameo appearance and flood our Press and air-waves. Both Simcha Felder and Dov Hikind (another pompous asshole) will come out of their Witness Protection Programs, smile for the cameras and opine on how they were at the forefront of this cause. Hey Simcha,don't forget to carefully comb those 2-1/2 strands of hair across your front pate, gotta look good for the cameras!
Our Leadership is corrupt, many of our Rabbonim don't give a damn, and our Mahus has been twisted and corrupted beyond recognition.
The good news is that Baseball Spring Training is here and "The Boys of Summer" will soon be entertaining us.
The bad news is that there are 56 days left to these clowns Shabbos Hagodol Drosohos.
noone knows anything......there is absolutely no proof of him having done anything wrong...everyone stop jumping on the bandwagon in saying he forsure is guilty..isnt the legal system's motto-innocent until proven guilty..yes there are child molesters out there ...yes there is alot wrong with the yeshiva system and orthodox jewry as i can attest to...yes they are very sick....yes there is arguement whether they can change or not...but to bring baseless hatred upon someone-i dont understand...unless there is proof...and so far there isnt any...
to Anon is a Putzyan!! said...
I have to admit, that was a very adult and particularly moving appeal. Did YOU get excited when you thought about lubing up that broomstick? People who imagine other people commiting violence and S&M are usually the people who most want to do it. I fear for your soul, the window you allowed us into it was scary indeed.
To angry, this is not a statement about whether or not people who speak out about molestation deserve to be taken seriously. When legitimate complaints (and I have no idea whether or not the complaints about kolko are legit - I havent looked into it, though I'm certainly not against doing so - IN A PROPER forum) arise, the appropriate response is to investigate quietly and then reveal the findings in public. But UOJ's attitude about every issue has been shoot first, ask questions later, which is a VERY dangerous technique when people's names are at stake. I have yet to see a hint of any kind of reflection or deliberation regarding the truth of ANY story published by UOJ. He writes, savages names, and then, when the facts come out, he keeps silent, or worse yet, persists in believing that something wrong occurred and ALL the investigation in the world wouldnt change his mind. That's not the attitude of someone who wants to help, its the attitude of someone who has an axe to grind against orthodoxy, good and bad.
All of you who mindlessly support him pumping your fists in the air whenever he names a name - score one for the little guy!!!!- are not helping either. You are just perpetrating his crime when he defames innocent people (and he's done so a number of times since he started writing).
If you were molested as a child, I feel very sorry for you, and agree that the pervert who did so should be punished and kept from doing these things again. But that doesnt mean anyone has the right to slander innocent (or even possibly innocent) people. The torah is pretty clear about how strict beit din has to be in order to convict someone in a life an death case. Do we now feel that those rules were wrong? That people's lives are worth less, and if you break a few eggs and ruin a few reputations undeservedly its ok? I argue that all the guilty people in the world should walk free rather than forever ruin the life of one innocent man. OUJ has ruined dozens, and you all have helped him.
Its very simple: playing with peoples lives is a tremendous responsibility. When you do it as though there are no consequences to your actions, you run the risk of becoming as dangerous a force as the people you think you're trying to stop.
And for the record, I'm neither a black hatter, nor have I ever been one. I dont keep up a front. I'm not even orthodox anymore. I just beleive strongly that reputations are fragile, and when you kick them around like a bunch of reckless kids, you are doing the wrong thing.
To sadjew - I am sad too, and I beleive that the rabbis who covered up the molestation of your relative were bad people. In that case, I dont think I have issues with publicly attacking them. However, what UOJ does is something else entirely - he attacks without cause, and he defames without evidence. He's quick to criticize and slow to apologize, and those qualities make him a very very dangerous individual.
Lets imagine for a second (and I dont think this is true) that a full investigation exonerates kolko or anyone else smeared here. Can anyone reading this picture UOJ writing a public apology? I have yet to hear the words "I'm sorry" or "I was wrong" come out of his mouth. That means he's a court of one, and there's no defense attourney, no appeal, and no question of innocence. Sounds like a stacked deck to me. Ask yourselves how much you'd like it if you were unjustly subjected to that court's judgement. Imagine not being able to say ANYTHING, no matter how true or right, in your defense, and just having an anonymous man trample all over your reputation and name without any hope of stopping him. I find that a VERY scary picture.
Finally, Boog, you're just a moron who does nothing to help aside from singing a chorus line. Whatever inadvertent good people like UOJ accomplish wont protect you in the end. I hope that one day you are subject to the attack of someone as vicious and hateful as you are. Maybe then you'll learn.
to Anon is a Putzyan!! said...
I have to admit, that was a very adult and particularly moving appeal. Did YOU get excited when you thought about lubing up that broomstick? People who imagine other people commiting violence and S&M are usually the people who most want to do it. I fear for your soul, the window you allowed us into it was scary indeed.
To angry, this is not a statement about whether or not people who speak out about molestation deserve to be taken seriously. When legitimate complaints (and I have no idea whether or not the complaints about kolko are legit - I havent looked into it, though I'm certainly not against doing so - IN A PROPER forum) arise, the appropriate response is to investigate quietly and then reveal the findings in public. But UOJ's attitude about every issue has been shoot first, ask questions later, which is a VERY dangerous technique when people's names are at stake. I have yet to see a hint of any kind of reflection or deliberation regarding the truth of ANY story published by UOJ. He writes, savages names, and then, when the facts come out, he keeps silent, or worse yet, persists in believing that something wrong occurred and ALL the investigation in the world wouldnt change his mind. That's not the attitude of someone who wants to help, its the attitude of someone who has an axe to grind against orthodoxy, good and bad.
All of you who mindlessly support him pumping your fists in the air whenever he names a name - score one for the little guy!!!!- are not helping either. You are just perpetrating his crime when he defames innocent people (and he's done so a number of times since he started writing).
If you were molested as a child, I feel very sorry for you, and agree that the pervert who did so should be punished and kept from doing these things again. But that doesnt mean anyone has the right to slander innocent (or even possibly innocent) people. The torah is pretty clear about how strict beit din has to be in order to convict someone in a life an death case. Do we now feel that those rules were wrong? That people's lives are worth less, and if you break a few eggs and ruin a few reputations undeservedly its ok? I argue that all the guilty people in the world should walk free rather than forever ruin the life of one innocent man. OUJ has ruined dozens, and you all have helped him.
Its very simple: playing with peoples lives is a tremendous responsibility. When you do it as though there are no consequences to your actions, you run the risk of becoming as dangerous a force as the people you think you're trying to stop.
And for the record, I'm neither a black hatter, nor have I ever been one. I dont keep up a front. I'm not even orthodox anymore. I just beleive strongly that reputations are fragile, and when you kick them around like a bunch of reckless kids, you are doing the wrong thing.
To sadjew - I am sad too, and I beleive that the rabbis who covered up the molestation of your relative were bad people. In that case, I dont think I have issues with publicly attacking them. However, what UOJ does is something else entirely - he attacks without cause, and he defames without evidence. He's quick to criticize and slow to apologize, and those qualities make him a very very dangerous individual.
Lets imagine for a second (and I dont think this is true) that a full investigation exonerates kolko or anyone else smeared here. Can anyone reading this picture UOJ writing a public apology? I have yet to hear the words "I'm sorry" or "I was wrong" come out of his mouth. That means he's a court of one, and there's no defense attourney, no appeal, and no question of innocence. Sounds like a stacked deck to me. Ask yourselves how much you'd like it if you were unjustly subjected to that court's judgement. Imagine not being able to say ANYTHING, no matter how true or right, in your defense, and just having an anonymous man trample all over your reputation and name without any hope of stopping him. I find that a VERY scary picture.
Finally, Boog, you're just a moron who does nothing to help aside from singing a chorus line. Whatever inadvertent good people like UOJ accomplish wont protect you in the end. I hope that one day you are subject to the attack of someone as vicious and hateful as you are. Maybe then you'll learn.
to above anonymous-my sentiments exactly...i reiterate-you can not just say someone did something wrong without proof-i do believe that if we do indeed find him to be guilty..that's when we should employ megan's list and put him out to dry....not before...but i doubt that will ever happen...because uoj doesn't have much of a case-i spoke to people very close to the case-and there isn't much of one right now...and i will say it again yes there are many issues with the orthodox and yeshiva world-that is how i was raised-i am not orthodox anymore- at all but i am not a hater and i am proud to be a jew-and by uoj just defaming someone as he has and will continue to do without an iota of proof is a bigger issue & by sending out a letter,doesnt do much to authenticate or establish any real cause for believing this story to be true-quite frankly the only thing it is doing is discrediting the story, it is only to push uoj's own agenda-which at this point in time we still do not know what that it is- what is your agenda uoj??? do you have a personal ax to grind??let's not hate before it is too late...although the hating has caused alot of grief as it is already-it is never to late to stop...as jews and as people let us not jump on the literal and embroidered bandwagon...all the best
anon;
ostrichitis can severely impair your vision.
I must be effectively striking a disharmonious chord amongst you and your dysfunctional brethren that come on this blog trying to steer us away from exposure and reactivity to the august hall of shame tinaf like Kolko, Monderer, Bryks, Carlebach, Lonner, etc. You can call me a moron, a "snotnose", and any name you like but it does not change the material fact that until UOJ came along, this very serious issue and problem of child sex abuse which has existed and been shoveled under the radar detectors by our Yeshivas and Sleep-Away camps was not met head on by our Rabbinic leaders and organizations. Agudah-for shame. Torah Umesorah-for shame.
The exact opposite is the fact. The victims have been doubly victimized; first by the retzicha perpetrated by the Rabbis in whom these innocent children have placed their trust and faith, and then secondly by their Hanhala who not only ignored the cries and complaints of these victims but made it out to be a figment of their active "child-like" imaginations.
Remember Daniel Levin.
Riddle me this Batman: Is Elliot Pasik, ESQ. who has eloquently posted on this Blog a moron? A snotnose? Just looking to stir the pot? Or is he someone who has valiantly labored on this issue, is in the trenches, and knows the real score. Consider how much additional positive exposure he has garnered for the remediation of this serious issue by appearing on this blog.
If the efforts by UOJ, Mr Pasik, and Jeff Hermann, et al; result in nothing else but the putting in place of effective hiring screening mechanisms in our Yeshivas, Days schools, Camps, and organizations etc. which will save even one Jewish child from being sexually molested, then this Blog will have been a rousing success and deserve our unmitigated applause.
Remember Daniel Levin.
Yes, Boog...
Let's all remember Dovid Abramowitz
Who died recently...Meiselman at Toras Moshe ignored this boy's plea for two years.
The next time we pass by the Empire State Building remember that there is a Yiddishe neshoma hovering over it, begging us to do something, anything, to prevent children from the sexual abuse they experience at the hands of merciless predators hiding in yeshivas.
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uoj,
we are not trying to steer away exposure from this horrific problem....real child molesters should be locked up- as was lanner-kolko was never convicted of any crime-uoj,yes to expose child molesters in the orthodox jewish community instead of closing our eyes as if it never happened,(as is often the case) is needed and warrented and you are an eye-opening catalyst for this groundwork but where is the proof over here in this scenerio???-yes,i have a very dear friend who committed suicide due to this issue-who grew up in the orthodox community but left as well due to the evil he experienced..others were victims of child abuse as well,people very close to me-but where is the validity here??
boog-how can you group shlomo carlebach in this cluster??...it is amazing that all of a sudden when there is no voice to reason with accusations start flying...is he guilty because the awareness center says he was??again my point is-where is the validity??
all comments would be greatly appreciated.
all the best
good night
There are two real smart attorneys that are convinced that Kolko is a pedophile based on real solid evidence.
For all you people who keep on saying yes there are child molesters in our yeshiva systems but who says kolko is one of them. I say can you please name me one of these "yes there are child molesters" who have been exposed and thrown out of the yeshiva system. The anwser is no, it is always all talk and no action UOJ keep it up and maybe finally one of the child molesters will be thrown out.
anon, my holy brother;
Carlebach is one of the worst kept secrets in our community.
Where is the "validity" in your feeble attempt at revisionist history?
You say:
"i have a very dear friend who committed suicide due to this issue-who grew up in the orthodox community but left as well due to the evil he experienced..others were victims of child abuse as well,people very close to me-"
Were these predators 'convicted'? I do not believe so. Does then the suffering experienced by your friends carry any less "validity" and reality?
Your dysfunctional attempt to play both sides is exactly my point and speaks to the ostrichitis that plagues our community on this issue and which until now has prevented the implementation of serious reform.
And the Beat goes on and on: Read this months issue of the Jewish Obsever, the House Organ of the Agudah. The entire issue is devoted to "Children at Risk" a reprise, extension, and follow-up to their 1999-2000 analysis of this topic and examines the current state of affairs and circumstances that lead our children to go off the "derech".
Several factors that lead to emotional, psychological, and behavioral "risk" are pinpointed and discussed but sex predation by trusted authority figures is not one of them.
Why not?
I am a 'moron' and a 'snot-nose' so don't expect a cogent answer from me, but perhaps Mr. Pasik can enlighten you.
boog-
i am not playing both sides of the coin....the predators were convicted and are no longer in the system...i am just saying-there is no proof over here and so far we are just defaming someone and his family...
all the best
Sure there is proof - you're just not privy to it. The very nature of this abuse allows for legally protected anonymity of victims. It's funny how some of the opponents would agree that "yes there are pedophiles in our midst - BUT..." and when we try to out them, they protest! Talk all you want but your words are empty because they are not followed by action. Kolko is a child molester. It's as simple as that. Anyone who claims to not beleive this fact has clearly not investigated this issue. Go investigate and come back here with your findings!
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This is not just about kolko, it is about UOJ. Over the past year, he has attacked the integrity of numerous people without a smidgen of hard evidence (often with real evidence to the contrary) or reflection on his part that he might be doing something wrong. Nosson Scherman, Mordechai Tendler, Marvin Hier, Israel Singer, Jews who go to hotels for pesach(!!!!????), Rabbi Belsky - the list goes on and on - at a certain point, when you become the boy who cries wolf at everyone in the world, you lose your credibility even for people who may be bad. Is kolko a bad man? I have no way of knowing either way - the courts will decide. But UOJ's saying he is one does not move me, since according to him, NO ONE is good enough.
I ask again - in the event that Kolko is found innocent even in a civil court, can anyone imagine UOJ spending a millionth of time and effort in order to make restitution for all the pain he might have caused him? I am not saying that this will be the case - but every time you take someone's life into your hands, you need to ask yourself whether you dont have an agenda thats blinding you to possible truth, and whether you are absolutely certain (and not just some asinine "inside source" giving common wisdom) that your accusations are correct.
Side point: I do wonder about why all these victims cant be persuaded to go to the police and start a criminal matter - its amazing how its always the almighty dollar that is the only thing that motivates poeple to act ( I wonder how righteous herman would sound if he werent promised big payoffs from his lawsuits - personally, I have much more respect for hard working low earning DAs).
Anon:
Wrong. This is exclusively about Kolko. It has absolutely nothing to do with UOJ.
When the evidence is made public, will all my detractors apologize to the victims????
What will Margulies do to restore scores of lives that have been destroyed???
Hamotzi mechavero, alav haraya - and I didnt attack the victims, you on the other hand have directly attacked the names of dozens of people.
And margoleis will pay if found guilty - a lawsuit and irate parents will know exactly where to find him. but if he's found innocent, who will know where to collect damages from you? Who will know where you live to force you to publicly retract? No one, and so you'll go on smearing people will a 50% accuracy at best, ruining 50% of the lives you decide to focus on for no good reason.
Above Anon,
I am not wrong...I have solid evidence that is irrefutable...However, if I'm found wrong...after all is said and done..I PROMISE TO COME FORWARD, REVEAL MY IDENTITY AND PAY THE CONSEQUENCES!!!!!
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